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Question: The Queen of the United Kingdom is due to visit Ireland next year. Should we invite her to Ballinasloe?
Yes - 13 (39.4%)
No - 15 (45.5%)
Don't care - 5 (15.2%)
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2010, 01:57:40 PM »

Surely that's for everyone to decide for his- or herself?
Yes, it is but I would hardly call a state visit from the Queen as "Irish bowing & scraping to the British/English monarchy". I think it is time we let go of our victim complex and become a confident nation willing to look to the future rather than the distant past.

BTW as Otto von Bismarck posted Queen Elizabeth II is not German.

So you won't mind paying the reported €8 million security bill for her visit? Let anyone who wants come over, but in these times of recession let them pay for it themselves. And, as no other country/commonwealth has such a history in relation to Ireland, it (obviously) raises more issues and creates more tension than other state visits.
We should treat a state visit from the Queen like any other state visit.
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 02:59:35 PM »

The gas thing is the woman has been in Ireland plenty of times before! Are the 6 Counties not still Ireland!?

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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2010, 05:36:51 PM »

its a pity she is not here in october we could ask her to open the fair, she might even buy a few piebalds
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2010, 07:00:07 PM »

The gas thing is the woman has been in Ireland plenty of times before! Are the 6 Counties not still Ireland!?



Well they're part of the island but as they fall under the jurisdiction
of the UK, her previous trips there would not constitute a state visit.

It is not possible to undertake a state visit to your own country.


Having said that, if President McAleese were to carry out a state visit to
the UK, she would in fact be doing so in the country of her birth.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 09:03:09 AM »

A few years ago, I would have been against any such visit by the British monarch to Ireland - North or South.

I think the Good Friday Agreement has changed everything in this regard. As Noel has said, you cannot expect the unionists and nationalists there to make all sorts of concessions and accommodations while leaving poeple down South people to trot out a litany of old arguments regarding such a visit.

Sinn Fein or its supporters cannot seriously argue against Elizabeth Windsor coming to Ireland when its own members are ministers in the Northern Ireland Assembly.

However, while she's entited, like any other such head of state, to visit Ireland by virtue of the two countries having diplomatic relations, so too have the population the right to protest and demonstrate against this, just as they did when US presidents Reagan or Bush came to Ireland.

Like it or not, Elizabeth Windsor is commander-in-chief of an army that has "unlawfully" killed many Irish citizens.

The queen's role is symbolic, yes. But so too would any demonstrations against her be. Symbolic protests against past controvertial actions of the British army, but also against the fact that this army is involved in the invastions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yes, the Irish president is also the commander in chief of an army, but this army has not a) been involved in gunning down British citizens on their own streets or b) bombing civilians in Iraq or Afghanistan.

I would welcome the visit. It would present an ideal opportunity for some to apologise/express regret to her husband for the murder of his Uncle in Sligo over thirty years ago.

True, although it's worth pointing out that a man served a 19-year sentence for his murder. Of course, the she could reciprocate any such apology with her own, given the fact that soliders wearing her insignia have done plenty of killing in Northern Ireland themselves, but few, if any, have served even a few months in jail for it.   
 
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2010, 08:18:42 PM »

No offence to anyone on the site but if the queen comes to ireland i say let her what has she done to anyone in ireland i think theres a lot of sinn fein talking about this topic as hill says theres peace in ireland at last if it was the man from the white house we would be all as happy as bloody larry so give it a rest.
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2010, 09:51:55 PM »

its a pity she is not here in october we could ask her to open the fair, she might even buy a few piebalds

And we would have a real, live, blue blooded Queen of the Fair. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

nice one hawk. Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2010, 09:37:15 PM »

Bring her on and we will get Liam Jordon to get a few snaps of her on the horse in the square. Im sure Haslam would be prepared to take care of her security.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2010, 01:32:54 PM »

Can everyone not just accept that poor Freddy Mercury is dead.   
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2010, 01:19:49 AM »

very droll or is it drole
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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2010, 02:06:42 AM »

Mercurial observation on a proposed State visit.
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2010, 09:35:26 AM »

What a great night out Tongue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs

Well, it beats Ireland's Call Huh
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